Well, Daryl, I agree with all but the last line of your post!! I, too, hate ties - though, working in the corporate world, it's a daily thing for me. And, you're right - they serve no useful function at all. Which led me, a few years ago, to write the attached. Best read A/LOUD!! Nothing Chile in there at all - but hope y'all enjoy!! Robert. blue collar lynching in a white collar/town for the invention of the tie, some Frenchman with a long face deserves the name Prometheus. what is it that grips us more tightly than a lawyer or a whore? this is a strange device. more ways to tie it up. more ways to squeeze the living from the life. when i wear ties my salad fork misses my mouth; my orange juice runs down my chin. what short-waisted masochist! what cowardly hypocrite! what nail-biting, pale-skinned loser, drying out in a smoky room created this? someone who was a cynic. a Seventeenth Century man, someone obsessed with ritual. someone who goosestepped out of an unhappy life and into a Degas painting! the long reach of an overprotective Europe hangs like a Mississippi noose around my neck: