Sorry, I was being flippant. I admitted in an earlier post that I was a sheep in wolves clothing when it comes to habarno's. In the Toronto, Ontario area, I can't imagine any restaurant that would serve something too hot for even the mildest manner ch. We have some chinese restaurants that will provide you with a bowl of schezuhan peppers in an oil sauce, which you can use to make it as spicy as you want. That was the one meal where I overdid it by mixing it with Rice before tasting it. There's also suicide wings around, but they haven't quite figured out that hot is not the same as spicey ( and tasty ). The one's I've tried weren't fit to eat, hot or not. I've been to Indian and Thai restaurants, and have never been able to get them mildly hot. And there hasn't been a decent Mexican restaurant in Toronto since Hernando's Hideaway closed for renovations and never reopened ( about 10 years ago ). Gil -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com] On Behalf Of JOE1BOXER Sent: Monday, May 18, 1998 1:26 PM To: chile-heads@globalgarden.com Subject: [CH] Re: Cranking up the heat in restaurants!-a members comment In a message dated 98-05-18 11:17:17 EDT, Gil wrote: <<Real CH's don't wave white flags !!>> I disagree. I believe the point of this list is to discuss and share our passion for hot food. But that does not mean that you should lie about your tolerence to look macho. If you have ever witnessed someone trying to be macho by taking more heat then they can handle, you will know exactely what I mean when I say they look far more foolish then macho. Not everyone who is a chile-head can handle the very hottest peppers, in fact, anyone who says there is no pepper too hot for them, is lying. We are all fans of the peppers at different levels, thats what makes this list interesting. I am not saying that the intent of that comment was to offend, but by accident, you may have alienated some of the most loyal and devoted chile heads. Something for us all to think about, -Joe