I recieved this today from the scoundrels! After reviewing their site, I found it to be reasonably useful (if it weren't for the damn frame issue) for finding some quality sites (not just saying that because they included mine, mind you:)) I informed them that as long as their frames were not present, that a new window be opened, I could accept that. Granted my site is not commercial, or earning me money in any way (like FireGirl's) , but as it would cost more to fight things, I decided not to have the link to my page removed. I agree that these tactics are pretty despicable, and will support Mary in any way I can, but as for my particular site, it's not worth worrying about. Flame away! Jeff The Pepperman ------------------------------------------------------------ Subj: RE: Use of My website Date: 98-06-02 09:53:32 EDT From: EMurray@thepassword.com (Murray, Edward) To: pepperman@sizzling.com ('pepperman@sizzling.com') Dear Jeff Our magazines are subject specific directories that utilize frames. Frames provide a structure for the user, a place to come back to so they don't get "lost" on the Web. As for the content we select, we employ a team of editors who search the Web and bring back what they determine to be the best content on a specific subject - the content most worthy of a user's time. Experts in searching, our editors find what the typical user would never find, and put it all in one convenient place - a Password magazine. We do not claim to own the content, we simply direct the user to the content. Most Webmasters welcome the site traffic generated by The Password (for instance, we generated 800,000 additional page views for ZDNet in one month alone!). We understand your objection to being framed, however. What I propose is this: we continue to link to your site, but without the use of frames. This would mean that a link and summary would appear within our frame, but when a user clicks on that link, a new browser window opens up onto your site. Of course, we can remove the link entirely, if that is what you decide you want us to do. Please let us know. Sincerely, Ed Murray Editorial Director Password Internet Publishing Corp. http://www.thepassword.com emurray@thepassword.com