Hi C-H's, Thank you George for your informative note on micro-organisms. I see I'm not the only one with cool "toys". Yesterday I took an ESEM picture of the growing root tip of a Chile de Arbol. Will hoist it into a web page soon. The seed is now in the only growing medium I had handy here at work - used coffee grounds. We'll see! I agree (as ever) with Brent's comments about rocotos. They are in fact very easy to grow, and with their preference for indirect or filtered sunlight, do very well indoors over winter. The difficult part is to make them set and produce fruit. (We frequently have list discussions on these subjects.) Incidentally, at this time of year in the N. hemisphere, your overwintered C. pubescens are probably throwing up new shoots fast and furious at a time when there is still probably a fair stretch of winter left. If you choose to prune, use the strongly growing new shoots for cloning new plants. They have all the right hormones available. To Byron Bromley who wrote: "I post some of his [Jerry Baker's] formula's for those who might want to try a different method. Because its posted doesn't mean they have to use it. It's their choice. I also believe its my freedom of speech to be able to voice a different opinion." Sure, I'll stick up for your free speech rights, but it would help to get some of the facts straight: "cheap beers like Bud use rice malt, rice is also from a plant" Aside from the fact that for what it is, I consider Bud a rather expensive beverage, I have not heard of US breweries malting rice. Flaked rice is however used as an adjuct in mashing to consume excess enzymes (most commonly with pale malts) which would otherwise go to waste after completing the digestion of starch from the barley. Flaked maize (corn) is also used for this purpose. If I am wrong about malted rice, please correct me George. On Cola:"So far I can not see anything inorganic" How about phosphoric acid? It might actually do some good :) although I prefer to use a properly balanced fertiliser. "Ammonia. If I remember correctly chemical formula is NOH." NH4OH. My own tuppence worth on Mr. Baker's gardening ideas can be deduced from the fact that I classify him and his like with astrologers. I don't see too much use of Coca-Cola and beer on the plants grown here at OSU's world famous horticultural operations. In fact the researchers tend to reserve these liquids for their own consumption. >Oh, before I forget, the book mentioned one Candida >surprisingly missing from Mr. Begg's list: Candida scottii =;-) It was a long time ago. We were just good friends. I did nothing to prevent me from being a Cardinal! There - that should stir things up a bit! Regards, Cameron.