That guy just used regular bulbs, cool white. I find it hard to believe that a combination of warm and cool lights provides a full spectrum, but it seems to be confirmed by a lot of people. My own plants are struggling by with natural light through the patio door. I'd like to hang a light fixture, but it would look like hanging junk in front of the door, and blast light all over the place. And I don't want to build an enclosure. The flourescents don't get hot like the halogens. They don't pull as much power, either - I've heard that some indoor reefer growers get caught because their electric usage is too consistently high. Somebody help me out here - what was it they said in science class, incandescent lights convert 95 percent of the electricity into heat and 5 percent into light, and with flourescents it's more like 60/40? Brewers: Yesterday I took a tour of the Miami Trail brewery in Xenia, Ohhio. Wow oh wow oh wow. They're preparing to do some contract brewing, and they fill a really nice growler. They invited us to visit when the bottling line is running, and take places on the line. Dog-ugly industrial building, but very well laid out inside. Ah, the smell of the malt room ... I always _thought_ I was a horse, but now I know. Alex Silbajoris 72163.1353@compuserve.com with an eye on that one ripening hab