x BY>Thiram also does not last long enough to control BY>damp-off. Lost too many cole crops that were thiram BY>treated. The effect is lost after about 2 weeks from BY>start of germination. And definately does not stay BY>with a plant from seed start medium to larger pot. x I haven't found it very useful either. In fact, I've lost more plants that were Thiram-treated than I have of plants that were left alone. x Keep on rockin', Rain @@@@ \\\\\ --- þ OLX 2.2 TD þ 3 out of 4 Americans make up 75% of the population.