In a message dated 2/13/99 5:26:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, mstevens@exit109.com writes: << The brand I've had was called Cave Creek. I'll have to admit I was less than impressed. For one thing it had sort of a grassy taste of a green unripe jalapeno, and in general it just seemed to be contrary to the concept of what beer is all about. Give me heat from any other source and a non-hot beer to refresh me! >> Hummm.. None of the beers mentioned ring a bell with me... I will have to go searching,,, When I find it I will let ya know.. It was a good beer, I dont even like beer usually but this was good... Thanks Todd