"users of chems are somehow "substandard" individuals and probably related to Satan" Golly gee. I've combined organic methods with petrochemical assists for thirty-five years. No one's unhealthy at my house and we depend on the garden for most (in season) fresh vegetables. If chiles were accompanied by the same warnings as pressure treated wood, you know the "don't put sawdust from this wood on your cereal" no one would dare eat one. Like Scott, I feel a little scolded when a fellow chile grower announces to the list that stone, concrete, or other alleged inerts are the "only" way to go when creating raised beds. There is no "one best way." That's why we're here, on this list, to ask and offer advice, to learn and to grow. Pronouncements, especially assumption pronouncements (2x10's should not be used for raised beds - anyone assuming pressure treated?) tend to chill reasonable discussion. Anyone who is having great luck "flat" gardening is still a great source of information for me. Some farmer-gardeners claim that peppers do best in poorer soils, so improving organic content may be counterproductive. Surely someone on this list has tested that hypothesis - and I'd love to hear the feedback. Every now and then any one of us might succumb to the urge to get carried away with the profundity of our own verbosity. That's fine. Just please climb down from your perch before doing so. Gareth the ChileKnight