Gareth, mark and all, > ... as well for those with some respect for coronary > arteries who have no bacon grease or Crisco handy. With respect to coronary arteries (and I should know), there is a wide difference between the two. In approximate order from best (helpful) to shear white death: poly unsaturated oil helpful safflower, some other seed & nut mono saturated neutral peanut, olive Sesame seed oil is a mix that is mostly on the good side. saturated oil bacon grease butter === death below: "hydrogenated" ======== many snack foods most margarines Crisco & other solid shortenings And Scott, you are quite correct: Anything with "hydrogenated" as significant ingredient is particularly bad. Mark, this is not just "this years Bad Guy", it has been known for at least 15 years. As this is somewhat off topic, anyone who is seriously interested in the whys and wherefores reply to me, and I'll get back. Andy.