OK, so here goes, Friends: [PgDn to avoid off-topic political rant] I'm an ex-GI, too, and I support our troops in thought and prayer. That said, I do not support Bubba and his bed-fellows, American or Chinese. Sorry, but I don't trust him enough to support him -- in anything. Besides, this ‘Action' is a lose-lose situation, tried before and failed before; witness Lebanon, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Somalia, etc. We get what we pay (vote, and pay and pay) for in politicians. The people of Ohio voted about 4 to 1 to limit Congressional terms; on the very same ballot, they re-elected a Senator to his 4th (I think) term. Duhhh? As for the military leaders, I'm sure they've let their feelings be known; we pay them first to advise and then to carry out the will of the President and Congress, not to stage coups d'etat. [End rant 1] [PgDn to avoid on-topic TMV vs. Recipe rant] I, for one, am disappointed that the grump of one person has caused the well of recipes to dry up. I'm here because I want to learn about peppers and how to eat them (would love to be a left-over-nibbling mouse in the Hallowed Halls of Doug). Being a certified ‘brown thumb', I doubt that any of your advice on germination, virus, 10-24-36, etc will do me much good, but ‘I tried this last night and it was really good' recipes are important. Shuttling me away to a list of recipes at some web site is OK at times, but I like the information straight from the horse's m-m-m.. fingers. [End rant two, end rant all] OK, someone tell me what happened at the Indiana HotLuck, please. I'm sure it was something to Rave about. Warmest regards and AIA (apologies in advance), JC, the Other