Byron, Am I reading this correctly? Are you actually challenging all us pepper growers in places other than the northeast in a BATTLE OF THE BUGS? Saying you have MORE KINDS of bugs so that's why you need to use tobacco? Now I've heard it all! In the south when it doesn't freeze, I know bugs multiply and grow bigger and more fortified it seems! You should see the size of some of these city beetles and caterpillars and the holes they CHOMP CHOMP! Not to mention da marsh and swamp lands of da bayou! LOL I've only been here maybe a month but I think a lot of these posts are getting downright combative and childish. Rain, I agree with your general appraisal. I think I'll follow you as soon as I clarify where I'm coming from. I didn't mean to contribute to any disruption here but just want to say to all those who are so anti-American and anti-Bill when innocent lives are being lost over religious or ethnic differences it's time to put politics aside. Aren't we lucky to have this FREEDOM to rant and rave here? I hate war and I actively protested Viet Nam. Yet when I handed flowers to the military in Central Park on Armed Forces Day, it was a gesture of love for life not hate for them. This conflict reminds me more of Hitler than Nam. If some idiot were to say all Chileheads should be run out of the country and their houses burned, maybe you'd hope somebody would offer you some help. War is sad and ugly but I have to support my fellow soldiers in harm's way. When I tie a yellow ribbon in my garden, I am promoting PEACE and LOVE not praise for Bill C. or anything else. To me a BLACK ribbon symbolizes DEATH HATE and DESTRUCTION and this world doesn't need any more of that. If you plant a garden you learn to appreciate LIFE If you only eat its harvest you just don't git it! Also, I want to say to Jim & Mike I know these lists have to be managed especially when they reach the size this one is. I have several lists and online clubs so I can empathize. I run my lists a little differently so I may not fit in here. I maintain a high tolerance for tangentitis as long as it is not mean-spirited & I believe variety is the spice of life. That's the way it goes with gardening. You start to transplant the peppers and notice the pot is not draining well, you poke a few holes in it then notice it could look better so you get out your paints and paint it. Meanwhile some white flies show up so you make another batch of Voodoo Mist then it starts to rain so you run to pull the fragile seedlings in, by then you're hungry so you go pick some basil and tomatoes and find some tunes to play that probably have nothing to do with chiles it goes on and on... As I writer, I like words. I like to foster humor, vignettes and personal anecdotes that make life interesting and I never was one for lots of rules. I guess I am sometimes naive and childlike when I should be looking at the big picture. People say to me, "you sound like you're having fun!" I have to say "No, I just look harder to find it sometimes." I won't apologize for this being so long, it BUGS ME (back to original subject, LOL) when people do that. You know where the delete buttons are too :) Off my soap box (& maybe, like Rain, on no-mail for awhile) Rosemary Basil "Pepper Gardener for Peace & Love in the Garden" --- "Byron.Bromley" <Byron.Bromley@Gsd-Co.Com> wrote: In the Northeast we have to deal with > > Green Peach Aphid > Melon Aphid > Greenhouse whitefly > Silverleaf whitefly > Banded wing whitefly > > Colorado Potato Beetle. > > Cutworm > wireworm > > Pepper maggot > Tomato Hornworm > Potato Leafhopper > IO Moth > greenfruit worm > pyramidal fruitworm > === CITY JUNGLES....CITYPEPPERS...WORLD PEACE & PEPPERPHREAKS! http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Canopy/7686/sitemap.html http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Square/9333/PEPPERS.html Send a Yellow Ribbon for World Peace & Human Rights http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/7207/yellowribbon.html _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com