Well, it takes a lot of mint to keep up with my julep making in May, what can I say? I use a back hoe. ;-) <kidding> Actually, the 30 gallon nursery containers I get are much bigger around than a typical garbage can, therefore, not as deep as you may be imagining. Still, admittedly, it is a big hole to dig and I more often have used 5 or 15 gal. containers than 30 gal., like you. Last time I buried a 30 gal. container was in CT with sandy soil so I easily just used a shovel and took my time much like preparing a hole for planting a 30 gal. tree. Also, where I was in CT, you always would "harvest" quite a few large rocks any time you dug which helped more quickly empty big holes. I'll have to let you know how it goes here in TX with my deep pine forest loam. Your mileage other places may vary, so, as Mary-Anne points out, you may want to start smaller, esp. if you are plagued with clay or are shovel-challenged. Deb in Houston ------ Mary-Anne wrote: From: Shantihhh@aol.com Subject: [CH] containers? <<deep plastic container (15 or 30 gal. nursery containers are esp. good or even an old bucket)>> Deb, That's garbage can size! Who do you get to dig a 4 foot deep hole? I use 5 gallon for horseradish and mints and they stay put. 30 gallon? Mary-Anne