~ OH NO!!!!!~ not you Rose too!!!! Rain and now Rose!!!! What is wrong with some of you guys( yes guys and you know who you are)!!!!?????? What is the problem here? some are so quick to take their feet and stick them in their mouths...... can't everyone have their own way of dealing with something...without some of you (know it alls) trying to shove your way up everyones butt! I respect alot of the folks here on this list and enjoy their recipes....their information.... and YES their idea of Tobacco spray.......whether I use the recipes, absorb the information or use the tobacco spray......wanna know why? because they have something interesting to share!!!! and because they don't waste our time with childish criticism...constructive is good.... but when all you do is wait like a vulture to jump on someone because you disagree with what they might say or the way they say it....it becomes too much! We all must realize it takes many fibers to weave the cloth and make the cloth strong and beautiful.... and some of you are biting big moth size holes in what could be a very strong and durable fabric!!! If this is over your head then please read into it what you want~ some of you are going to anyways!!! If you keep putting down others because they are different, do it different or because they don't believe what you do ....you are going to find yourselves (at least about 3 or 4 of you in here alone and bored ) waiting for the next victims to join the Chile-heads!!! We have alot of wonderful people here that want to talk about gardening, share recipes, seeds, talk Chilepeppers and yes sometimes off topic posts...only because they want to share something.... but it's getting to the point where some are shying away from posting fearing they will have to hear from the "Backlash Bullies " thru post or their email!!!! I for one am not going to be bullied into leaving.....and I hate the fact that wonderful people like Rose and Rain left!!! May they see it in their hearts to forgive (you few) that are making the chile-heads look bad!!! and come on back to a list that shares wonderful recipes......gardening information....... seeds...... and humor!!! For you wonderful people~ I apologize ahead of time for ranting and raving~ sometimes I am too passionate! On Subject: if you haven't stopped reading this redheads ranting post yet........My peppers are in full bloom and I have several varieties with little peppers!!!!! Yippee!!!! I do have a question though .......I am growing my habs in containers and they are still very small plants....how big do Habanero plants get??? my humble apologies for making this so long~ Debra~