> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:20:43 +1000 > From: "Mark Ellis" <mellis@gribbles.com.au> [snip] > Now I know some will say that there is only piri piri sauce > etc, but apparently there is a piri piri chile. Well piri > piri chile - if that's really your name, present yourself know > to our scrutiny!!!! In the first place piri means chile in swahili so a translation of piri piri chile is chile chile chile ;-) Which is the next point. In general in Africa when a word is repeated it is a form of emphasis. We see piri piri, pila pila, berebere and for the soccer fans Bafana Bafana and so on. I guess the repeated word means that it is thought to be exceptional in some way. Throughout Africa a small C. frutescens grows. It is spread both by humans and birds and can be found growing "wild". There has been a proposal to declare it a weed in South Africa. There may be regional differences in physical characteristics and there are regional differences in names. I have seen small samples of those from Malawi (larger), Mozambique (smaller) and South Africa. I have read the description on Zimbabwe Bird and some other countries I have forgotten. Other than minor differences in size, heat and taste probably due to regional developments, they are all the same. And yes, I do realise I am saying all Cabernet Savignon is the same ;-) In this neck of the woods they are called Devil Chiles, further north others call them Zimbabwe Birds Eye and in Mozambique locals call them piri piri or peri peri. Probably every town and village in Africa has a different name for them. You can ponder why a swahili word is used by the portuguese, who introduced this chile to Africa (West) in the first place. Anyone who wants African Devil seeds can email me directly. I would be looking for anything unusual, possibly in C. chinense like datil, habanero, goat... but it is not that important that some exchange has to take place for you to get seeds. The plant is hardy and will take cold quite well. Grows about 4 feet high. Fruit all year but far less in winter (in Africa) YMMV. Peter -- Peter Moss "Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'". - Bruce Perens