This is the only comment that I have on this thread. (I'm not getting dragged into a possible flame-war!) Part of the reason I write this at all is some local news. Recently here in Japan it was announced that the meat and milk of cloned cattle was put on sale. It was announced AFTER the first shipments were sold to consumers. No labelling, no warning, no mention of what the consumer was getting. It just landed on their plates and in their glasses. Apparently, there is no intention here to require labelling or distinction of any kind that what individuals are consuming are the products of experimental animals. On to chiles. It is incumbent upon us to work to preserve our own favorite varieties. We certainly can't expect large corporations to do it for us. I see only two ways to do this. 1) Buy from reputable people that sell only the "real thing." Don't buy anything from companies offering glow in the dark chiles. A chile plant that glows like a Christmas tree might be fun for some college student, but I'm not going to grow one! 2) Ensure that you can grow your own seed for varieties you really want to keep. It may require a bit of extra work, but it is better than the future prospect of having only varieties available that are profitable for some multi-national. It is people like us that must be on guard. I have an acquaintance that is active in this arena. If anyone is interested, please contact me personally and I will try to set up your connections. Thanks, David Yoshiba ------------------------- At 3:37 PM +0100 99.5.14, Ron Hill wrote: > At 08:36 14/05/99 -0400, George Nelson wrote: > >If it were not for selective genetic manipulation, the only chile plants we > >would have in North America would be the little tepins that grow only in > >Arizona, and there would be none in Mississippi or Missouri since the > >climate would not allow it. > > > >Humans have been messing about with selective genetic manipulation for many > >generations with disastrous or excellent results depending upon how > >selective your memory is. > > > >How about a rocoto that fruits well in less than 150 days as it responds to > >longer than 14 hour daylight. > > > > Hi George and all, > > The 'Terminator' genetically modified grain seeds are the worry rather than > improved quality GM crops - there is a very real danger that a field of > terminator > type grain could spread the one-season-then-sterile attribute to other crops > being grown for subsequent years. > > BUT on the plus side just imagine a giant sweet pepper with the heat of a hab! > > Regards, > Ron Hill.