Alexandra, Lynn Edwards has a nice picture of a ripe Fatali at his site, <http://www.crl.com/~ledwards/fatapic1.html>. Be careful, though. I always find myself spending at least 30 min. at a time browsing this site, it's very interesting and informative. In Chiles, Doug ************************************************************* * For the sake of tolerance do we tolerate the intolerable? * *************************************************************