Hi Baker- About those "freaky Red Savinas"- A large number of people, including myself and other members of this digest, have had the same experience with Red Savina peppers. Most of us acquired our seeds from Shepherd's Garden Seeds. There seems to be a problem with their Red Savina seeds, but they are presently trying to get it right. I'd be interested to know where you got your seeds. I've never found another source for the Red Savina besides Shepherd's. -Russell