The KT seeds had a pretty good germination rate, 80% for the thin, 95% for the thick. The thick have slightly larger seeds, and sprouted 12 - 24 hours earlier than the thin. None got leggy, most were 1.5 - 2 inches tall with the second set of true leaves started. The roots were about 3 inches deep. All are now in .5 liter plastic soda bottles (tops cut off), or 16 oz plastic cups, all with drain- age holes poked/melted into the bottoms. Scott... KCK