In a message dated 3/00 2:27:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpd@world.std.com writes: << Is that 40 lb bag really 18" x 36" x 6" thick? >> Chuck and all, It's 19x27x5+ or about 1.45 cu ft compacted, but it's composted manure and therefore pretty fluffy when poured over a 3' x 3' x 3" frame (as I did yesterday). Dumped in the garden, and fluffed up, it rakes out at deeper than 3" over the square yard. If I tromped on it before tilling it in, you'd be right on the money that it's volume is .75 cu ft short and it would measure under 2" deep per sq. yd. I wonder what the specific gravity of a box of popcorn might be, or a fluffed up pillow (feather type), or a box of marshmallows...unless you compressed them first. Seems to me you'd be averaging the solids with the specific gravity of air. One of the reasons for tossing compost (or peat moss) is to increase its volume (add air) which, of course, helps to improve the tilth of the soil, but doesn't do a thing to increase its weight. Part of the point of tilling soil is to overcome compaction or reduce density, in other words to manipulate the volume upwards by adding air. Somewhat like making a frappe, or beating air into a milkshake. DENSITY ratio of the MASS of a substance to its volume. Because many substances can be compressed into a smaller volume by increasing the pressure on them, the temperature and pressure at which the density is measured are usually specified. SPECIFIC GRAVITY the ratio of the WEIGHT of a given volume of a substance to the weight of an equal volume of a reference substance, usually water. Gareth the empirical compost raking ChileKnight