Clyde, your suggestion about cutting the skin sounds a bit ... circumspect. clearly there could be circumstances where this might be a good idea. nonetheless, without seeming to circumnavigate the subject matter, i wonder if the "rolling pin" myth may have been created to circumvent the true meaning of "scarification" ? undoubtedly, someone out there can circumstantiate these allegations without too much circumlocution. we'll all be better off with a "Straight"-forward explanation ! regards peter g