>, Byron. No help from this side. I >do think the "tape" measure is a winner, though. >Perhaps in smaller >amounts. Cats hate getting things stuck to their >feet. Got one smart enough to step over it, Placed some chichen wire around the plants, went thru the wire and got some 6in Choc Habies. @#$%^^& . Even with some Thai pepper on the plants, took out all my green bells and 20 Jals. Byron