The Seed Savers Exchange has finally established a website for their commercial sales of a limited number of hard-to-find varieties. It's at http://www.seedsavers.org -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bob Batson L 39 12 14 N 94 33 16 W rcb@kc.rr.com Kansas City TCS - Mystic Fire Priest USDA Zone 5