I have never grown these chiles, but I know the ones you're talking about, Mark, because I get the overflows from a friend's bush. They're not Caribbean Red Hot, but...? Instead of being more rounded, like a CR., they have 3 flared lobes towards the base of the chile. My friend has always called them "Bell chiles" (this is not the real name), because they do resemble a bell a bit. Tara -- ______________________________________________________ Tara Deen School of Earth Sciences Division of Geology and Geophysics Building FO5 University of Sydney NSW 2006 Phone: 61-2-9351 4271 Fax: 61-2-9351 0184 email: tara@es.usyd.edu.au ______________________________________________________