In a message dated 6/00 8:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, begg.4@osu.edu writes: << >IPAs, being particularly hoppy, contain lots of hop oil.< The amount of oil is insignificant, even in dry hopped cask conditioned beers. >> Even so, is it most people's experience that IPAs (India Pale Ales) cut the burn, or not? Or, with regard to Rosengarten's test, do Rolling Rock and Brooklyn Brewery brews diminish the fire for most ChDs, or not? I'd sooner use a beer of any type with a bowl of red, or a super stoked chicken cacciatore, or tetrazzini than milk, or yogurt, or ice cream. Dairy products may reduce the flames best, but a bowl of chili and a glass of milk would be emergency treatment only. Gimme a beer. Gareth the ChileKnight