I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this before, and while not as tasty as beer I can give it to my seven year old daughter when she bites off more than she can handle. I give her a great big spoonful of peanut butter. Works quickly, must be the peanut oil. Keeps her quiet for a little while. I saw reference to black and tan being Guiness and Bass Ale, I always thought it was Guiness and Harps. Picked our first chile on Monday, a banana pepper. Lots of Thai Dragons on the vine and even some Anchos starting. Things are looking up. Michael Pierce Telecommunications Manager - MarTel International, Inc. 11038 N. Harrison Kansas City, MO 64155 Phone: 816.734.0040 Fax: 816.734.2066 URL: http://www.martel-intl.com