In a message dated 6/00 10:54:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, byron.bromley@gsd-co.com writes: << The 4-12-4 plants are a little smaller, the leaf to leaf spacing is less, No aphids, 4x as many blossoms started. Thicker stems. Something doesn't add up. What ?? Byron >> Lord Byron, Could it be that the production is better (best?) when the "P" is three times the "N&K" rather than just a little over twice the ratio? That would move us both off of 5-10-5, if true. Sir Gareth