Oh but Doogliss, yours truly took the heat of that one (82 flames) To the poster of that tobacco formula, Using a whole plug is a bit much, cut it back to the equivalent of one "chaw", If I recall correctly about a 1/2" square, A lot less toxic for you and the good guy's. The Jerry Baker formula starts with the amount for one "chaw" and makes 320 gals, (yes ML I can hear you sputter from here) Gareth Those Country Girls, the only one I know of that is hotter green than ripe. BTW Ripens yellow. Green about tobasco heat, Ripe about "Old Bay Seasoning" Lord Byron Last night went into the 50's, Looking for Greenhouse in July. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Doogliss wrote: ...oh Gareth.....would this be a can of worms that you are opening??? Or is it a can of TM virus? ...watch fer the mail, I'll LB's Country Girl seed which produced two spindly seedlings have now developed two enormous, bushy plants. They must be thrilled to have escaped their parents' Granite Garden. Gareth