Mike bounced this & understandably so... Hope this works... was wondering why I got no response at all.(it had htmlsomehow attached) I don't guess the URL will link now.. not sure how to fix that sorry. --leslie I am pretty excited right now, although we are moving to a smaller apt. for a year it will be one with a PATIO! Tiny, they all seem to be here in Louisville Ky., but since I have none now.... and they are fairly lenient about flower/gardens one resident has all their front section and around the corner incredibly landscaped.! I would like to plant tomatos & pepepers, one or two of each in containers. I have learned here that many of you over-winter your peppers (and tomatoes?) what if I started this year to have older healthy plants next year? Is it too late for 'maters & peppers? I can put my herbs out, do some fall flowers etc. I found this URL for EarthBoxes, selfcontained reservoir, fertilizer etc. They are not cheap so I thought I would ask for you input before I spent any $$. maybe try one or two? has anyone heard of this or the concept? yeah or neigh? http://www.earthbox.com/what.html Also am wondering about putting my little container herbs outside. they have been in a west window and will be going out on an east patio. Do I need to wean them like transplants?? they are not the healthiest buggars, have been fighting fungus gnats since I bought them on mothers day. Moving in a week, Thanks, --leslie I thot I was 5a but maybe i am 6a expecting a cold winter at any rate