Also, what do the dill seeds do in Derek's mixture? Chad Gard, CTS KB9WXQ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Nothing. Dishsoap sufficates bugs that breath thru the pores of their bodies, Bugs like grasshoppers that clean their appendages, soap gives them the terminl sh-ts. Nicotine affects the central nervous system The rest of the stuff is not needed. (try it for yourself) Hot pepper can be applied seperately for vertabrates, squirrels and chipmonks etc. Lord Byron