The problem is that the big wholesalers want a crop that is uniform and packs and ships well. They care nothing for taste and nothing for appearance betond uniformity. It's the reason that tomatoes taste like moist red cardboard, apples are bland with little flavour (but, great appearance), rtc. Yes Yes yes Once a tomato hits a coolroom it stops ripening. Threfore no flavour Michael Bailes, The Fragrant Garden, Portsmouth Road, Erina. N.S.W. 2250 Australia. (OZ); International fax 61 243 651979 Phone02 4367 7322 Web page at: http://www.fragrantgarden.com.au/ Email: <fragrantgarden@fastlink.com.au> "Everyone over 40 is responsible for their own face." *****************************************************************