[CH] Chile-Heads Digest V7 #306

Chile-Heads Digest (owner-chile-heads-digest@globalgarden.com)
Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0800

Chile-Heads Digest       Sunday, March 11 2001       Volume 07 : Number 306



In this issue:

       [CH] German Chile Websites( Part 2)
       Re: [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Crockpot Red Beans & Rice
       RE: [CH] emergency substitute for tomatillos..
       [CH] Cross Pollination of Plants
       Re: [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Crockpot Red Beans & Rice
       [CH] everybody?
       [CH] TEST-Pls disregard
       [CH] Chile-head songs
       Re: [CH] TEST-Pls disregard
       [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ
       Re: [CH] Chile-head songs
       Fw: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ
       Re: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ
       [CH] Test
       RE: [CH] Chile-head songs
       [CH] Chile-head-Songs
       [CH] Dysfunctional Twister
       Re: [CH] Test
       Re: [CH] Chile-head-Songs
       Re: [CH] Chile-head-Songs
       RE: [CH] TEST-Pls disregard
       [CH] Fungus??!!??
       [CH] pepper tattoos
       Re: [CH] Fungus??!!??
       Fw: [CH] Fungus??!!??
       Re: [CH] pepper tattoos
       Re: [CH] Dysfunctional Twister
       [CH] molds and chile
       [CH] Origin of Chile
       Re: [CH] pepper tattoos
       [CH] South American chile web page
       Re: [CH] pepper tattoos
       Fw: [CH] South American chile web page
       Re: [CH] South American chile web page
       [CH] thanks sweeties!
       [CH] hybrids
       Re: [CH] hybrids
       Re: [CH] hybrids
       [CH] Odd Job Shopping - x/p to DePepperMan
       [CH] quick questions
       RE: [CH] quick questions
       Re: [CH] quick questions
       [CH] Tommorow's the day!
       Re: [CH] quick questions
       [CH] Hot Chocolate
       [CH] norski's and hot nuts
       [CH] "Sour Oranges?"
       [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Mimi's Sticky Chicken - x/p DePepperMan

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:33:03 +0100
From: martillo@t-online.de (Pedro)
Subject: [CH] German Chile Websites( Part 2)

Hi,
more German Chile Websites:

http://www.pepperworld.de
With the first german Hotshop!
(German and english version)
The Owner is Author of the only german Chilepepperbook.

http://hotspice.de
Infos about the great Spice Museum in Hamburg

http://chilis.de

Pedro
Germany

http://www.hotsauce.de
Infos about hot sauces, fiery chiles and hot recipes
(In german language only.)

"Un jetz gehe mir raus un trete nach allem, was sisch gewecht.."
Steppi (Äbbelwoi Serbe und Fussball Stratege)

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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:04:31 -0500
From: "John Benz Fentner, Jr." <johnfentner@home.com>
Subject: Re: [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Crockpot Red Beans & Rice

Rael64 wrote:
> 
> At 08:46 AM 3/3/01 -0500, John Benz Fentner, Jr. wrote:
> >Hey Rael:
> >
> >Once upon a time you (at least I think it wuz you) posted a
> >red beans & rice recipe that used pickled ginger. You
> >wouldn't happen to have that handy wouldja? I can't find the
> >copy I saved.
> 
> found it...edited it (language/procedures...it's my nature)...
> 
> Upon thinking (a chore in itself, mind you) i added the pickled ginger
> because <1> i had it in the fridge <2> i thought it would add a wang to the
> recipe.  did.  does.  dig?

(Littlea snoop)


Yup, that's the one, thanks. I'll try not to lose it this
time.  Got a jar of pickled ginger, 4 serranos left from
yesterday's chili, a pound of locally smoked andouille and a
blizzard on the way. YeeHaw!


JB
Damn....I hope I got beans.  :)
- -- 
*********************************
John Benz Fentner, Jr.
Unionville, Connecticut, USA
http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/ <--- This URL dead
compliments of Yahoo!! Geocities
"Lex Non Favet Delicatorum Votis"
*********************************

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:42:32 -0800
From: "Mary & Riley" <uGuys@ChileGarden.com>
Subject: RE: [CH] emergency substitute for tomatillos..

> [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of George Starkey
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 3:29 PM
> To: Chile Heads
> Subject: [CH] emergency substitute for tomatillos..

> One night I was making salsa, and realized I had no tomatillos, and none
> were to be found in town, so in despair I tried using green Granny Smith
> apples.  It fooled nearly everyone!  I still prefer the tomatillos,
> though..
>
> George, Indianapolis

I cooked up some turkey chili the other eve and threw in a granny smith (I
think).  Really good.  Still is.  :)

Riley

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:19:03 -0500
From: "Frank Francisco" <francisco_@prodigy.net>
Subject: [CH] Cross Pollination of Plants

Hi Chilis:
I'm going to try to control as much as possible the pollination to the 15
pepper plants that I plan to plant closely together.  May I assume that if I
force pollinate from one plant to another that this has "set" the plant and
no other genetic material from other plants can henceforth be introduced?  I
would hate to go through the trouble of tying cloth bags on the stems, or
physically separating the plants by screens.
Frank

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:07:50 -0500
From: Charles P Demas <cpd@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Crockpot Red Beans & Rice

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, RisaG wrote:

Just a comment, I'd suggest adding the salt after the beans have cooked.

Cooking beans in salted water makes them tough.  You'll notice that
Rael's recipe (adapted from P.P.) has the beans soaked and cooked in
unsalted water.

Chuck Demas


> This was tonight's dinner. Came out pretty good - could have used a lot more
> heat to it. A bit bland. I would add more hot sauce or hot chiles, I used
> jalapeno and some green sauce as the original recipe called for.
> 
>                      *  Exported from  MasterCook  *
> 
>                   Crockpot New Orleans Red Beans & Rice
> 
> Recipe By     : RisaG
> Serving Size  : 4    Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories    : Beans & Legumes                  Chiles
>                 Rice                             Crockpot
> 
>   Amount  Measure       Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> --------  ------------  --------------------------------
>    2      cups          dried kidney beans
>    5      cups          water (or more)
>      1/2  lg            sweet onion -- chopped
>    1      stalk         celery -- chopped
>      1/2  cup           green bell pepper -- chopped
>    1      cup           carrots -- sliced
>    1                    jalapeno or other chile -- minced
>    1      link          andouille sausage -- chopped*
>      1/2  tsp           dried thyme
>    4      lg cloves     garlic -- minced
>    3      tsp           Emeril's Kick It Up Green Pepper Sauce -- or more **
>    1      tsp           salt
>    1 1/2  cups          cooked basmati rice -- *** see note
>                         Garnishes:
>                         cilantro -- chopped
>                         onion -- chopped
>                         chile peppers -- chopped
> 
> In 4-1/2 qt - 5 qt crockpot:
> 
> In crockpot, place all ingredients except the rice and garnishes. Set on
> HIGH for 6-7 hours. When it has cooked for 6 hours, check the beans for
> doneness. If done, turn off. If not, cook for another hour.
> 
> To serve: Place rice in bottom of bowl. Place 1/4 of the mixture on top of
> it. Garnish with chopped cilantro, onion and chile peppers.
> 
>                    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> NOTES : Risa's notes:
> 
> * If you can't find andouille sausage, use any type of smoked sausage you
> can find.
> 
> ** If you can't find Emeril's Kick It Up Green Pepper Sauce, use the kind
> you have (such as Tabasco Green Sauce). If you can't find any type of green
> sauce in your supermarket, use a red sauce. They are easy to find.
> 
> *** If you can't find basmati, use regular white rice (Uncle Ben's or
> anything similar).
> 
> RisaG
> 

  Eat Healthy    |   _ _   | Nothing would be done at all,
  Stay Fit       |   @ @   | If a man waited to do it so well,
  Die Anyway     |    v    | That no one could find fault with it.
  demas@tiac.net |  \___/  | http://www.tiac.net/users/demas

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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:11:31 +0100
From: "Emile & Dewi" <e.steenbrink@worldonline.nl>
Subject: [CH] everybody?

Hi Pods,

Just checking to see if everybody got the seeds I mailed out. I still don't
know of three addresses. So, Keith, Keith ( yes another Keith) and Marianne,
did you guys get your seeds? And Sam, It's coming to the UK! Please can you
let me know if the seeds got there yet? Thanks!

Miss Dewi

PS. Seedlings are doing great! Getting bigger with lots of leaves.

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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:45:55 -0500
From: "Elden E. Martin" <eldenemartin@earthlink.net>
Subject: [CH] TEST-Pls disregard

TESTING...1...2...3

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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:02:21 -0500
From: "Elden E. Martin" <eldenemartin@earthlink.net>
Subject: [CH] Chile-head songs

How about "Fire" by the Pointer Sisters?  (OK, I'm older.) Or that old time
blues tune that I can never remember the name of until the Takilya starts
flowing.

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:58:58 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] TEST-Pls disregard

"Elden E. Martin" wrote:

> TESTING...1...2...3

  Uh........  I reckon that would be 6.  Do I pass?

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099
Silver Glen American Shorthairs
www.worzellaphoto.com/pets/index.htm

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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2036 07:30:20 -0800
From: "Joan Sullivan R.Ph." <Joan@adobedrug.com>
Subject: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ

Hi All,

Delurking for a bit of advice.  I'm going to a conference the first weekend
of April to Tempe, Arizona.  My first time.  Looking for good eats in the
area.  I understand that Phoenix is close by, but I won't have much extra
time to drive around, except maybe on Saturday night.  I've got no snobbism,
regular or reverse.  Only requirement is honest food.

Thanks, Joan

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:08:38 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] Chile-head songs

"Elden E. Martin" wrote:

> How about "Fire" by the Pointer Sisters?  (OK, I'm older.) Or that old time
> blues tune that I can never remember the name of until the Takilya starts
> flowing.

  I'm surprised there isn't a Weird Al song involving chiles (although there
may be a passing reference in Taco Grande), since he has so many tunes about
food.  Or is there, and I'm missing something???  Anywhoooo, anybody catch him
on "Win Ben Stein's Money" last week, along with C.C. DeVille (sp?) and, I
believe, Matthew Sweet, (with whom I'm not familiar aside from having heard of
him)???

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099
Silver Glen American Shorthairs
www.worzellaphoto.com/pets/index.htm

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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:33:11 -0500
From: "Frank Francisco" <francisco_@prodigy.net>
Subject: Fw: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ

One place I especially enjoyed was Los Dos Molinos.  The food is as hot as
you like it, authentic and unpretentious.  A casual and very popular place.
I believe this is in Mesa, which isn't too far.  No credit cards.
Frank

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joan Sullivan R.Ph." <Joan@adobedrug.com>
To: "Luke Speer" <lukasz@midcoast.com.au>; "Chile Heads"
<chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2036 10:30 AM
Subject: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ


 Hi All,

 Delurking for a bit of advice.  I'm going to a conference the first weekend
of April to Tempe, Arizona.  My first time.  Looking for good eats in the
area.  I understand that Phoenix is close by, but I won't have much extra
time to drive around, except maybe on Saturday night.  I've got no snobbism,
regular or reverse.  Only requirement is honest food.

Thanks, Joan

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:58:20 -0800
From: Chris Meredith <merc@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: [CH] Seeking Advice...Travel To Tempe, AZ

Los Dos Molinos... some of the best food I have ever eaten  3 locations 
around that area Tempe, Phoenix and the Valley


one of them is Tom Mix's old house lot's of good food and great atmosphere 
... my Fav is the Carnita's



- -Chris


At 07:30 AM 2/14/2036 -0800, Joan Sullivan R.Ph. wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Delurking for a bit of advice.  I'm going to a conference the first weekend
>of April to Tempe, Arizona.  My first time.  Looking for good eats in the
>area.  I understand that Phoenix is close by, but I won't have much extra
>time to drive around, except maybe on Saturday night.  I've got no snobbism,
>regular or reverse.  Only requirement is honest food.
>
>Thanks, Joan

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:35:40 -0500
From: "Elden E. Martin" <eldenemartin@earthlink.net>
Subject: [CH] Test

HaHa!!  No, I pass.  I have been having trouble with earthlink getting their
SugarHoneyIceTea together and wanted to make sure that I was going to be
able to post.  I am in the sometimes Sunny South and garden organically.  I
am currently attending the master gardener course at the local university
and have already started my babies for this year.  I tried to container
garden but the housekeeper put my plants outside to clean the living room
and forgot to bring them back in and they got frost bit pretty bad and now I
have to start all over.  I was wanting to try something different this year
anyway.  Last year I made some Bloody Mary mix that no one would consume but
me and I made some Hell Sauce for my friends but they won't use it because
they think the name of it was a joke!!  Maybe I can get some tips
here....and by the way, I am Patty-not Elden...Patty

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:13:51 -0600 
From: "Goslowsky, George" <gjgoslow@intergraph.com>
Subject: RE: [CH] Chile-head songs

Has anyone mentioned "Hold Your Fire" by Rush?

Lyrics sample : 

Hold your fire --
Keep it burning bright
Hold the flame 'til the dream ignites --
A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission

George J. Goslowsky
Monk of the TCS
Holder of Fire

We are only immortal for a limited time

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:26:25 +0100
From: martillo@t-online.de (Pedro)
Subject: [CH] Chile-head-Songs

Hello,
i know a song called:
"Heiss wie Chili"
(Hot as Chiles)
from a very popular german band called:
"Truck Stop"
They sings country and trucker songs in german language ......
Wy not?  
It sounds very good!!!! 
We like it !
Your 
Pedro
from Germany

 

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:50:32 GMT
From: mstevens@exit109.com
Subject: [CH] Dysfunctional Twister

Rael!  Looks like you're needed in Louisville!	

http://www.theonion.com/onion3708/twister_party.html

=Mark

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:46:20 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] Test

"Elden E. Martin" wrote:

> HaHa!!  No, I pass.  I have been having trouble with earthlink getting their
> SugarHoneyIceTea together and wanted to make sure that I was going to be
> able to post.

  Welcome Patty.  Looks as though your troubles have been resolved.  I wasn't
aware, however, that Earthlink was also in the beverage industry.  This drink
you mention sounds rather yummy.  Perhaps I will give them a try when my year
with ticon is up.



> I am in the sometimes Sunny South and garden organically.  I
> am currently attending the master gardener course at the local university
> and have already started my babies for this year.  I tried to container
> garden but the housekeeper put my plants outside to clean the living room
> and forgot to bring them back in and they got frost bit pretty bad and now I
> have to start all over.  I was wanting to try something different this year
> anyway.  Last year I made some Bloody Mary mix that no one would consume but
> me and I made some Hell Sauce for my friends but they won't use it because
> they think the name of it was a joke!!  Maybe I can get some tips
> here....and by the way, I am Patty-not Elden...Patty

  You will find several to many organic gardeners here; or perhaps you already
have, if you've been lurking for a while.  In any event, welcome again, and I'm
sure you will find all the info. you came in search of, and a WHOLE lot more.
Good luck with your new batch of babies; I still need to get my but in gear...


  Oh yeah, just mix in a little Hab. mash with your housekeeper's bubble bath,
or maybe her facial soap, that should help her remember to bring in your plants
next time.

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099
Silver Glen American Shorthairs
www.worzellaphoto.com/pets/index.htm

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:04:02 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] Chile-head-Songs

Pedro wrote:

> Hello,
> i know a song called:
> "Heiss wie Chili"
> (Hot as Chiles)...

  Any web sites with audio files of their stuff???

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:25:30 -0600
From: Mark McHugh <mt_mchugh@internet-stat.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] Chile-head-Songs

Pedro wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> i know a song called:
> "Heiss wie Chili"
> (Hot as Chiles)
> from a very popular german band called:
> "Truck Stop"
> They sings country and trucker songs in german language ......
> Wy not?
> It sounds very good!!!!
> We like it !
> Your
> Pedro
> from Germany
> 
> 

I laughed and groaned a few times seeing this while I was stationed in
West Germany.  Traveled a few thousand miles just to see the same crap
I left in Texas!  Sehr fremd, seeing Germans dressed in country and
western gear.  I'm glad I missed the line dancing years there!

- -- 
´´
Mark McHugh

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:07:10 -0800
From: "Mary & Riley" <uGuys@ChileGarden.com>
Subject: RE: [CH] TEST-Pls disregard

> 
> 
> "Elden E. Martin" wrote:
> 
> > TESTING...1...2...3
> 
>   Uh........  I reckon that would be 6.  Do I pass?
> 
> --
No No!  It's not 1 + 2 + 3, it's 1*2*3!  

Riley

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:47:07 -0500
From: "Kevin Kucifer" <kskucifer@usaserve.net>
Subject: [CH] Fungus??!!??

Got a question, more like a problem with a couple of my seedlings.  I have
just noticed what appears to be a fungus on the surface of the potting peat.
The seedlings don't appear to be any worse for wear, but I don't want this
to become a problem.  Right now it is only on a couple of the pots, but I am
worried that it might spread.  I may have kept the soil too wet and I am now
letting it dry out.  Should I (gulp!!!) sacrifice the infected pots to save
the rest of the batch or is the some way to defeat this interloper?.  They
are all together in a peat potting tray.  I am pretty new at this, but so
far I have managed to get a pretty good start.  Any and all help will be
greatly appreciated.


Thank,

Kev

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:26:50 -0500
From: "M.T. Bono" <mtbono@optonline.net>
Subject: [CH] pepper tattoos

Hi, I've been lurking on this list for a few months now,  you guys do a
great job! thanks!

Anyway, I'm considering a chili pepper tattoo for my leg, and was wondering
if anyone has done the same, or have any pictures or ideas.

Thanks again!

Tim

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:41:16 -0800
From: peter g <peter.g@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] Fungus??!!??

Kevin,
   there's a host of possibilities here !
while you may indeed have a mold problem , or a fungus that could
cause difficulties with the successful rearing of chilies, it's also
possible that what's growing in the pot along with your plants might
be an edible mushroom!  it happens with morels quite commonly here
in the PacNW.  ( do NOT eat mushrooms unless advised by a
mushroom expert : read mycologist )
some fungi form beneficial mycorrhizal associations with the roots of
flowering plants; a symbiotic relationship where nutrients are shared.
or it  could be just a "toadstool".  maybe even a toxic one.
   anyway, one thing i know for certain ...
it's flat-out impossible to identify mushrooms by e-mail !!
so check with a pro.
regards
peter g

"Mycology beats Urology any day."
Bryce Kendrick

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:27:01 -0500
From: "Frank Francisco" <francisco_@prodigy.net>
Subject: Fw: [CH] Fungus??!!??

I had the same problem.  Yes, you are overwatering.  I took a cotton swab
and dabbed a little Chlorox on it and dabbed the soil.  This took care of
the problem.
Frank

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Kucifer" <kskucifer@usaserve.net>
To: <chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:47 PM
Subject: [CH] Fungus??!!??


> Got a question, more like a problem with a couple of my seedlings.  I have
> just noticed what appears to be a fungus on the surface of the potting
peat.
> The seedlings don't appear to be any worse for wear, but I don't want this
> to become a problem.  Right now it is only on a couple of the pots, but I
am
> worried that it might spread.  I may have kept the soil too wet and I am
now
> letting it dry out.  Should I (gulp!!!) sacrifice the infected pots to
save
> the rest of the batch or is the some way to defeat this interloper?.  They
> are all together in a peat potting tray.  I am pretty new at this, but so
> far I have managed to get a pretty good start.  Any and all help will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thank,
>
> Kev
>
>

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:45:16 -0600
From: "bradley ellis" <h0t5auce@home.com>
Subject: Re: [CH] pepper tattoos

I've been wanting one on my shoulder for years, but my wife is against it.
One of these days when I forget what's good for me, I'll probably go ahead
and do it.

Brad

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "M.T. Bono" <mtbono@optonline.net>
To: <chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: [CH] pepper tattoos


> Hi, I've been lurking on this list for a few months now,  you guys do a
> great job! thanks!
>
> Anyway, I'm considering a chili pepper tattoo for my leg, and was
wondering
> if anyone has done the same, or have any pictures or ideas.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Tim
>

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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:46:26 -0800
From: raelsixty4@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CH] Dysfunctional Twister

At 7:50 PM +0000 3/7/01, mstevens@exit109.com wrote:
>Rael!  Looks like you're needed in Louisville!
>
>http://www.theonion.com/onion3708/twister_party.html
>
>=Mark

well, i must say i can understand the situation...afterall, not 
everyone is truly a Nekkid Twister [TM!] fanatic, even if they claim 
(or wish) to be.  Damn whomever came up with the "idea" that one 
should feel guilty/ashamed/self-conscious about the nekkid flesh. 
Odd, I think.  It's the flesh of others to which we are all 
attracted, but to actually get nekkid in a pile, especially a group 
pile?? people run for cover (sorry Frankie..).

all the guy needed was some pineapple habanero salsa, some nice clean 
Martha Stewart towels (is she looking tasty in her commercials or 
what? my my...), and some latex gloves (safe sex!), and, well, there 
ya go...

Ah well...youth...


Peace, Hendrix, and chiles.......

Rael"..new iMac here...sweeeeeet it be..."64

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:01:53 -0700
From: Eeyore <efalt@zianet.com>
Subject: [CH] molds and chile

Overwatering chiles makes little sense since chiles are happiest when
they are thirsty. The best part is that thirsty chiles get much hotter.
This is why New Mexico grows great chile.

Elsa

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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:18:17 -0500
From: "Gary Allen" <g_allen@culinary.edu>
Subject: [CH] Origin of Chile

From: "Louis Cohen" <louiscohen@home.com>

>I suspect that the chile had reached the Caribbean
>by the time Columbus got there - certainly it had reached
>Mexico when CortTs got there.

You're right on both counts.

Columbus noted, in his journal, on 15 January 1493: "...tambie'n ay
mucho axi', qu'es su pimienta, de'lla que vale mas que pimienta, y
toda la gente no come sin ella, que la halla muy sana; pue'dense
gargar cincuenta caravelas cada an~o en aquella Espan~o

Roughly translated, "...there is much Axi-- their pepper, much
stronger than [our] pepper, and everyone refuses to eat without it,
for they find it very healthful; in  Hispaniola, it's possible to fill
fifty caravels each year with it."  Axi(or Aji) is a 


All the contemporary accounts of the Cortes expedition (Fra. Sahagun,
Bernal Diaz, an anonymous book "by The Anonymous Conqueror, A
Companion of Hernan Corte's," as well as Cortes' five--very
lengthy--official letters to Spain) mention chiles


*Source: Cristo'bal Colo'n: _Textos y Documentos Completos_, edited
by Consuelo Varela (Madrid: Alianza Editorial, 1992) 198

(sorry for the primitive attempt to indicate accent marks)

Gary

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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:22:43 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] pepper tattoos

"M.T. Bono" wrote:

> Hi, I've been lurking on this list for a few months now,  you guys do a
> great job! thanks!
> Anyway, I'm considering a chili pepper tattoo for my leg, and was wondering
> if anyone has done the same, or have any pictures or ideas.
> Thanks again!
> Tim

  You may want to check out your local library for back issues of Chile Pepper
Magazine.  They used to run reader submitted photos of chile tattoos in the
letters section.  Not sure if they still do, as I haven't really had time to
crack open the last two.  But you might glean some ideas there.  Also try
either the Dewitt / Bosland book "Peppers of the World", or if you have even a
half-way decent printer, Graeme's site at
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gcaselton/chile/chile.html .  Both have many,
many excellent color photos.

Happy hunting.

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099
Silver Glen American Shorthairs
www.worzellaphoto.com/pets/index.htm

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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:18:52 -0800
From: "Joe Carrasco" <joe@rocoto.com>
Subject: [CH] South American chile web page

Just finished various updates to my web page.  Would like to get some
feedback. http://www.rocoto.com. Dedicated to South American chiles.


Thanks!
Joe

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:26:41 -0500
From: "Mike Simmons" <msimmons@wnm.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] pepper tattoos

Hey Ya'll,  Tats are fun although somewhat expensive.  I was thinking of an
enraged "peter pepper" coming "whatch it knuckledraggers" out your knee cap,
being devoured by a HAB.  A'm estimating, what,  about $350.??

- -----Original Message-----
From: bradley ellis <h0t5auce@home.com>
To: chilehead list <chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CH] pepper tattoos


>I've been wanting one on my shoulder for years, but my wife is against it.
>One of these days when I forget what's good for me, I'll probably go ahead
>and do it.
>
>Brad
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "M.T. Bono" <mtbono@optonline.net>
>To: <chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:26 PM
>Subject: [CH] pepper tattoos
>
>
>> Hi, I've been lurking on this list for a few months now,  you guys do a
>> great job! thanks!
>>
>> Anyway, I'm considering a chili pepper tattoo for my leg, and was
>wondering
>> if anyone has done the same, or have any pictures or ideas.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:45:36 -0500
From: "Frank Francisco" <francisco_@prodigy.net>
Subject: Fw: [CH] South American chile web page

That Salteña recipe sounds like a winner.  As soon as I get some Aji
Amarillo and Aji Colorod powder, its a done deal.
Frank

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Carrasco" <joe@rocoto.com>
To: <Chile-Heads@globalgarden.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:18 PM
Subject: [CH] South American chile web page


> Just finished various updates to my web page.  Would like to get some
> feedback. http://www.rocoto.com. Dedicated to South American chiles.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
>
>

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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:08:24 -0600
From: tucker <tucker@ticon.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] South American chile web page

Joe Carrasco wrote:

> Just finished various updates to my web page.  Would like to get some
> feedback. http://www.rocoto.com. Dedicated to South American chiles.
> Thanks!
> Joe

  Well, I only checked out the first page so far... but that's real
purty...

- --
Erich
C-H # 2099

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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:25:17 +0100
From: "Emile & Dewi" <e.steenbrink@worldonline.nl>
Subject: [CH] thanks sweeties!

Hi Dan and Lisa,

Thanks so much for the seeds you both sent to me. I'll defenitely use them
this year and I'll put them in the garden. Thanks so much and see you on the
list!

Miss Dewi

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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:32 +0100
From: "Emile & Dewi" <e.steenbrink@worldonline.nl>
Subject: [CH] hybrids

Hi Podheads,

A question. Are hybrids a bad thing? 

Miss Dewi

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Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 06:08:20 -0600
From: Uncle Dirty Dave <xrated@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [CH] hybrids

At 09:49 AM 3/9/01 +0100, Emile & Dewi wrote:

>A question. Are hybrids a bad thing?

No, they are a good thing, mostly. Except seed saving won't give you the 
same plants that you  had.

ENJOY!!!
- --------
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Home of Yaaaaa Hooooo Aaahhh!!! HOT SAUCE and Hardin Cider

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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:12:28 -0500
From: Charles P Demas <cpd@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: [CH] hybrids

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Emile & Dewi wrote:

> A question. Are hybrids a bad thing? 

Not necessarily, but they tend to be different.  Plant breeders
create hybrids all the time.  Sometimes it works out well and 
you get the better properties of the "parents" and sometimes
they get plants with properties that are less desireable.

Hybrids don't tend to breed true, that is, the "children" of
hybrids may have very different characteristics than the
hybrid parents.

FWIW, seed savers want seeds that breed true, and that tends to
exclude hybrids.

Bottom line is, if you plan to save seeds, you should be 
concerned about hybrids;  but if you buy your seeds, then
you don't need to worry about hybrids/

Chuck Demas


  Eat Healthy    |   _ _   | Nothing would be done at all,
  Stay Fit       |   @ @   | If a man waited to do it so well,
  Die Anyway     |    v    | That no one could find fault with it.
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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:29:31 -0500
From: "RisaG" <radiorlg@home.com>
Subject: [CH] Odd Job Shopping - x/p to DePepperMan

If you have an Odd Job near you, they have Casa Italica Sliced Jalapenos in
a 12 oz jar for $1.29. Normally $1.99. Not a big sale but thought I should
let the other chile-heads know. They also had some extra virgin olive oil
infused with chiles awhile back. I got 2 bottles of oil from the same
company - one with truffles in it and another with lemon in it. About $3.99
a bottle. They also have El Torito Tomatillo Enchilada Sauce in 10 oz cans
for 49 cents a piece. Pretty good stuff. A little spiciness - 3 kinds of
chiles in it. I picked up another can yesterday.

Anyway, wanted to let everyone know.

RisaG

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Date: 09 Mar 01 00:13:07 -0800
From: Jim.Weller@salata.com (Jim Weller)
Subject: [CH] quick questions

 -=> Quoting "Chris Cherry" to All <=-

 "C> (from Texas)

 "C> I live in an apartment, so I'm sad to say I don't get to garden the
 "C> way I would like. What are some chiles that would grow well in a
 "C> windowsill, and what would be the most effective methods to growing
 "C> them?
 
I have a yard but no garden and have been growing peppers in pots for
years. All of them seem to do well: I have grown sweet and hot banana
peppers, jalapenos, cayennes, habaneros, an F1 hybrid called Super
Chili and some kind of ornamental chile called "Chinese Fire Pepper" by
the nursery who sold me them to me as little bedding plants.

If you cut back the plant to about half each fall, let them go dormant
with no fertilizer and minimal water over winter and re-pot each spring
they tend to live 2 to 4 years. I use grow lights from Nov to March and
put them out on the deck during our short summers (June to August).

I live in Yellowknife, in northern Canada, so your methods will be
different but I would imagine you could grow any variety you choose.



                                                YK Jim

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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:26:28 -0500
From: "Art Jeyes" <artjeyes@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [CH] quick questions

About 3 years ago I lived in an apartment for a while and had wonderful
success growing Joe Parker New Mexico Green Chile indoors using a
hydroponics setup that held 6 plants and took up about 2 ft. x 3 ft. of
space.  The peppers were great and some guests that visited from Las Cruces,
NM said they were as good as local Hatch green Chile...

Art

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com
[mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weller
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:13 AM
To: Chile-Heads@globalgarden.com
Subject: [CH] quick questions


 -=> Quoting "Chris Cherry" to All <=-

 "C> (from Texas)

 "C> I live in an apartment, so I'm sad to say I don't get to garden the
 "C> way I would like. What are some chiles that would grow well in a
 "C> windowsill, and what would be the most effective methods to growing
 "C> them?

I have a yard but no garden and have been growing peppers in pots for
years. All of them seem to do well: I have grown sweet and hot banana
peppers, jalapenos, cayennes, habaneros, an F1 hybrid called Super
Chili and some kind of ornamental chile called "Chinese Fire Pepper" by
the nursery who sold me them to me as little bedding plants.

If you cut back the plant to about half each fall, let them go dormant
with no fertilizer and minimal water over winter and re-pot each spring
they tend to live 2 to 4 years. I use grow lights from Nov to March and
put them out on the deck during our short summers (June to August).

I live in Yellowknife, in northern Canada, so your methods will be
different but I would imagine you could grow any variety you choose.



                                                YK Jim


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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:34:34 +0100
From: martillo@t-online.de (Pedro)
Subject: Re: [CH] quick questions

Jim Weller wrote:
What are some chiles that would grow well in a windowsill ?

Hi Jim,
i have "Sibirische Hauspaprika", (Sibirian house pepper ?)
It comes from the cold Sibiria in Russia, and prosper very good on my 
windowsill. Very hot, like Cayenne or Thai.

Pedro from Germany

http://www.hotsauce.de

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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:26:38 -0500
From: =Mark <mstevens@exit109.com>
Subject: [CH] Tommorow's the day!

Got my video tape and am ready for the first nationally broadcast chilehead
Hotluck!  The first national endorsement of truely evil chocolate chip
cookies!

9PM, EST.  TV Food Network.



                    =Mark "Runs With Scissors" Stevens

                @ http://www.exit109.com/~mstevens @
                                  @ ICQ# 2059548 @

                                    Life is a Cabernet...

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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:35:51 -0500
From: raincrone@juno.com
Subject: Re: [CH] quick questions

> What are some chiles that would grow well in a windowsill ?

I've done well on the windowsill with Super Chiles, which are
of about cayenne heat and have a very nice serrano-ish flavor; they're
prolific as hell, quite attractive and of manageable plant size.

I also have a  three-year-old, 1ftx1ft _siling labuyo_ plant (a Filipino 
wild-type native, fruits about 3/4" to 1" by 3/16", bright red) doing
great in a six-inch pot on my east-facing bedroom windowsill; it bears
several times a year.  Pretty little sucker, too, and the peppers are
quite hot and have a lot of flavor.   Not bad for something I started as
an experiment, from seeds from the bottom of a jar of  pickled peppers,
when the cats trashed a bunch of
my seedlings from "bought" seeds and I didn't want to buy more.
(My junior cat is a chilehead.)  

_Siling labuyo_ plants are said to get quite a lot bigger outdoors, and
I'm going to put some out this year.  

Keep on rockin',
Rain
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:06:39 -0600
From: "Sandy Olson" <sandyo@willowtree.com>
Subject: [CH] Hot Chocolate

Gotta give Ron Levi a plug for the delicious chocolate almonds I bought from
him.  Wonderful creamy rich chocolate, crisp nuts and just the right burn
for a  chilehead of the moderate persuasion.  My husband thought they were
full of fire!  He's of Norwegian descent, however, and even moderate hotness
is too much for his delicate palate.  It also makes his head itch!

SandyO
CH #1146 with chocolate on her face

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:51:56 -0600
From: "Nels Peterson" <npkp4jp@polarcomm.com>
Subject: [CH] norski's and hot nuts

>My husband thought they were full of fire!  He's of Norwegian descent,
however, and even >moderate hotness is too much for his delicate palate

Careful with the Norski bashing :-)  Delicate palates?  I think not --
remember the Norwegians are famous for gammel ost (old cheese) and lutefisk!
BTW  -- I have always liked lutefisk with lots of butter and black pepper,
but this year I tried it with cayenne, mmmmm good!  Haven't  tried gammel
ost with pepper yet, can't get past the smell.  For you non-Norwegians,
gammel ost is quite similar to limburger.

Got the peppers planted this week -- 2500 jalapenos, 1000 anaheim, 1000
serrano, 500 habanero, and a mixture of others.  Also planted tomatoes and
bell peppers, ready for salsa season ;-)  Cut back some this year.

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:30:26 -0500
From: Myron Menaker <myronm@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [CH] "Sour Oranges?"

A friend has offered us some "sour oranges."
- --  Has anyone eaten them in this manner? 

"The normal types of sour orange are usually
too sour to be enjoyed out-of-hand. In
Mexico, however, sour oranges are cut in half,
salted, coated with a paste of hot chili peppers,
and eaten."

Thanks in advance for any comments/ideas!

Myron



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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:33:29 -0500
From: "RisaG" <radiorlg@home.com>
Subject: [CH] Tonight's Dinner - Mimi's Sticky Chicken - x/p DePepperMan

This was tonight's dinner. Boy is this the easiest and most wonderful
chicken in the world. All bbqers know about slow cooking and this is
definitely a slow cooking bird. The recipe has to be begun the day before
(if you really have a chance to) but it can be done the same day (I did
today. Bird didn't defrost completely until an hour before it had to go in
the oven so I marinated it in the dry rub for 1 hour and then put the temp
up a bit - 275F - and it took 4 hours instead of 5).

Serve with potatoes and salad or anything you usually serve chicken with.
This is so easy and yummy. Of course, if you wish to use a different chile
than cayenne, go ahead.

                     *  Exported from  MasterCook  *

                          Mimi's Sticky Chicken

Recipe By     : Mimi Hiller, Mimi's Cyber-Kitchen
Serving Size  : 6    Preparation Time :0:00
Categories    : Poultry

  Amount  Measure       Ingredient -- Preparation Method
- --------  ------------  --------------------------------
   1      3 lb          chicken -- washed
                        Seasoning Mix:
   2      tsp           salt
   1      tsp           paprika
     3/4  tsp           cayenne pepper
     1/2  tsp           onion powder
     1/2  tsp           dried thyme -- crumbled
     1/2  tsp           white pepper -- freshly ground
     1/4  tsp           garlic powder
     1/4  tsp           black pepper -- freshly ground
   1      cup           onion -- chopped*
                        water or broth -- for basting

Preheat oven to 250°F (yes, 250°F)

Combine all spices in small bowl (this can be done hours ahead of time).

Rinse chicken, inside and out and dry well. Rub spice mixture over skin and
the inside of the chicken. Place in a resealable plastic bag, seal and
refrigerate overnight. **

When ready to roast, stuff cavity with onions. Place chicken breast-skide
down, in roasting pan, Roast, uncovered, at 250°F. Anything over 225°F is
safe as long as the chicken reaches an internal temperature of at least
155°F, which this does and more, for about 5 hours.

Baste occasionally with pan juices or until juices run clear and juices
start to caramelize on the bottom of the pan and chicken is golden brown.
Serves 6.

                   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NOTES : Risa's notes:

* I used 1/2 large sweet onion in the cavity along with some fresh herbs.

** I didn't do this overnight, just an hour or so but it still flavored the
chicken pretty well.

I got this from http://www.cyber-kitchen.com. Mimi's site. Great site. GREAT
recipe. Not quick but really easy and yummy.

You won't be sorry if you make this. I've made it at least 3 more times
before (even once in the crockpot, seared on top of the stove first and once
in the Nesco) and it always comes out great.

RisaG

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