I consider myself a purist also- I like nearly ANYTHING with chiles as well :-) I, too, cut my teeth on my buddy Paul McIl's stuff but quickly moved on to other. I like vinegar so I use it as well as Franks, Louisianna, and Death Sauce. -Jim C Mild to Wild And since it seems in favor of late to rhyme, No pushing, no shoving, no cutting in line Apple smoked hab available again for a time :-)