> bedanken fur die Saden > I presume you to mean 'Samen' (seeds), as there is no such word as 'Saden' > (that I'm aware of). My German is so bad that I need a dictionary to write the German CH's back and the dictionary I use does say you can use Same, Saat and Saatgut. I know Saden isn't a word but the people know what I mean. They have used it on several occasions, too. But thanks for mentioning it. Miss Dewi, slowly getting warmer here in Holland!