Well, finally figured out I have to send this in plain text. So sorry. Anway, they call me the Mad Dog. My love of the chile pepper makes me a "hot dog" though. I am interested in anyone who would like to start a club in Detroit area, or who already has one established. Also, my personal home page is http://home.earthlink.net/~mdogdrum which includes a link to chile head home page. Anyone going to Hatch next year from this area, please let me know.