<< I am still searching for chili team names, especially Northern California cooks. >> Ben, S & M Chili (Steve and Mary-Anne Alamo, CA) Mary-Anne, Moderator TomatoFanatics@YahooGroups.com San Francisco Bay Area 25 miles East of SF USDA Zone 9b Sunset Zone 14/15 "Who plants the seed beneath the sod, and waits to see, believes in God."