Brothers and Sisters... A couple thoughts from Monk Rael... 1. Little is worth "debating" about on this list so heatedly, yet when we do, the topic should be 'bout our love, our religion, namely: chiles....or Twister...yeah, Twister fits in, don't it?? hehe... 2. Spam is not clearly defined...as most things are not clearly defined, i.e are variable in definition depending upon interpretation...or something like that <g>. Personally, I consider anything in my "mailbox" that wasn't invited (directly or indirectly, e.g. email from list members is okay...ususally <g>) to be spam, *particularly* when my email addrs. has been *harvested* from a list. It is indeed akin to me logging all email addresses i view on this list and selling them. More drastic, more offensive, blah, blah, yes, but regardless, the point be: it's ridiculous to argue about Spam. Email the author and tell him/her to stop; or send him/her a couple megs of clip art or the like. Eye for an eye, IMO. 3. I prefer to argue and flame off list. It's more civil, and even a bastard like myself can be civil (hence, so can everone else, yes?). I don't want to read email betwixt two (or more) that is little else than name calling, cuss-wird flingin', and so on. It's boring, mainly. But outta respect for others, do the bitching offline. And i must say that it's *especially* offensive to see quoted private email in a public arena like I just saw. It amounts to a person saying "ooh, look what someone said to me...defend me!" It may be a personal thing, yes, but that pisses me off to no end. Completely lacking any honor, no dignity. Don't attempt to drag others into little wars. Please. 4. I'm a nobody on this list like everyone else aside from our Exalted Chilehead ListMaster and Brother, Brother Mike B. Nonetheless, it felt like time to spit a little spittle, say my piece, and be done with it. If my speaking out offends anyone, by all means, email me privately to voice yer displeasure, and assuredly, i'll whip an email back to you replying with same tone/voice/mood, and probably then some. Tis my nature to be hospitable :) But, I would hope we can all sit back, eat a little chile-infused lunch, maybe drink one of those nasty carbonated bevs so as a nice, rich, spine-tinglin' belch-o-rama cometh forth (makes my eyes water, those do), and we can return to the world, happier, more content, and thus - one hopes - more amicable with our chilehead brethren. So...on with the chiles. Mebbe it's time to drag up that deserted fantasy island topic? Okay...mebbe not... Peace, Hendrix, and Chiles....... Rael64 Monk of the TCS Order of Salsa Twister Pain is Pleasure, Pleasure is Pain, Baby... Off-line flamin' goes here: mailto:raelsixfour@home.com