Re: OT: Re: [CH] question for a big brain
jocelyn berg (dygurkem@hotmail.com)
Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:43:49 -0400
>research the "golden rice" or whatever they're calling it now.
>Firstly, while many eastern countries do, per person, consume a large
>amount of rice, one would have to damn near stuff him/herself to
>receive "wonderous" benefit from the rice. Two, such crops are, as
>most GM seed, surrounded by various legal-ease crap, i.e. you can't
>plant from retained seeds, you must buy new seed each year from
>Corporation X, etc; in a nutshell, kill the 3rd world farming system.
>And so on...
this type of rice is only to provide people with the amount of vitamin A
they need for their day, its not made to become fat (ouff) . Of course you
can't live by only eating this type of rice, but it could help some poor
people in Afica. It wasn't developped to come on our plate since we don't
need it. Also, it was developped not by some sort of company who wants to
make cash, but by a retired biosomething (lack of memory here, better eat a
big pepper to get my brain going again) who tought he could bring something
to others. He worked on this project for about 10 years I think and have
been producing/eating it for at lest 2 years. It was tested in labs, seemed
to be no problem at all. Theirs no difficulties to produce it, it's like any
rice plants on earth.
>From whence do these genes come? Not much data out there for the
>public to make educated stands other than "it's safe...it's good for
>you". Corporate propaganda more likely.
These two genes comes from a yellow flower. This flower cannot be eaten
since it's poisunus, but the two genes that are transfered ain't the cause
of this poison. They are responsible for the production of vitamin A and for
the color yellow (so the new type of rice is yellow). I've got this
information on Discovery Channel I believe, a couple months ago. Also, this
product wouldn't be sold, it would be given.
>>We also have to know that a gene modification only adds, remove a
>>couple of genes. We don't say a thing when we cross two types of
>>plants together, like some of us talk about doing with their
>>peppers. It's funny cause this action changes thousands of genes at
>>random, but since it wasn't made under the plastic outfit, it's no
>>problem.
>
>Two completely different things. Apples and oranges. Don't insult
>peoples intelligence.
It ain't that different, and if I insulted anyone here by what I said, I'm
sorry I didn't wanted to. Here's a little example: Two types of potatoes
(both natural and both non-poison food) we crossed together in a natural way
and they expected to make a better potato (looks like what were doing here).
The problem is that the new tomato took a gene from one original type and
this made the potato extremely poisunus. They had to destroy acres of
potatoes because of that. So two good things together can cause a bad one.
It was potato to potato transfer, but even so it cause serious problems.
Thousands of genes were exchange, it can take only one to make a big
difference. If the gene exchange was controlled, it wouldn't have happened.
>It's people investing millions of dollars to reap billions. That's
>the bottom line. Some, I'm certain, or at least hopeful, truely
>think they may be bringing something great to the world, to humanity,
>but unfortunately, I've seen little of such....particularly when one
>considers the Whos of the GM world: Monsanto Corp, Avantis,
>ect....killers of the environment. History and fact show this to be
>undeniably true.
Well, this type of rice was developped by someone who just wanted to help
people. He never asked for money, paid for the whole process and did almost
everything in his home. I have to agree with you that the majority of people
who thinks of developping a better product with controlled gene exchange do
it for the money, but there are exceptions.
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