OT: RE: [CH] Anti Bt in your food?

Inagaddadavida, Baby (raelsixfour@home.com)
Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:44:01 -0600

>  > The stuff you spray on your plants is a naturally occuring organism.
>>
>
>No. It is a chemical compound found in a bacterium.
>
>>  The stuff that is gene spliced is a synthetic version.
>>
>
>No.  It is identical, same gene, as that found in a bacteria.  Same as
>above.  Let's clarify this.  You say it's ok to have and eat it on the
>outside, but not on the inside, right?

Bt sprayed on crops can be washed off (for the most part).  Bt 
engineered crops cannot have the Bt washed off.  I'm sure you 
understood Brother Byron's point, or at least you do now.  Somewhat 
akin to the fact that most veggies are grown in dirt which can, for 
the most part, be washed off...and is thankfully not found inside the 
veggie (for the most part).  But even if it *is*, such as in leeks, 
one simply soaks the veggie and amazingly, the dirt falls free.  I'd 
wager you could soak Bt corn for a day and Bt genes would still 
remain, no?

>  > The Bt gene splice is now banned in EU,  Brazil, Auz, Japan,
>>  China and a few
>>  others,  In the US you do not have the right to know it's in
>>  your food and
>>  have no choice.
>>
>>  Byron
>
>
>Actually if I try I can find out what is in my food.  In the EU, BZ etc

This is quite a feat to accomplish without having access to 
laboratory equipment as well as expertise.  I would dare say that the 
average person could *not* go out and purchase a bag of cornmeal, for 
example, and find out the type of corn(s) ground for the product, 
unless he/she spent quite a bit of time on the phone....and I 
seriously doubt one would get very far.

>I don't have the right to make the choice.  What I want to eat is
>outlawed.  Because I prefer food that has a BT gene and is hence not
>sprayed with pesticide.

So you'd rather eat the pesticide.  In that case, a sprayed veggie or 
one with a Bt gene would be the same for you, no?

As for ones "rights", there are usually multiple choices in respect 
to any decision.  One has the freedom and the ability, usually, to 
make a choice, but not a right, per se.  No one is guaranteed any 
kind of "right" to make a choice that may, or may not, injure, or 
damage, or destroy, etc.  Be it GM crops or be it violence, we all 
have the ability to make a choice; and more importantly, we *should* 
bear the responsibility honorably, thus uphold the understood 
acceptance of any/all consequence(s) of a choice/action.

Call it an issue of semantics, but there is a distinction.  It's 
getting far too watered down over time.

For a chilehead example, it isn't JoeBob's "right" to grow heatless 
jalapenos down the road from my superhot chilepatch.  He can choose 
to do so, has the choice of doing such.  Yet, in making his choice, 
he had better damn well make certain that his plants do not 
crossbreed with mine, and if they do, he should compensate me 
properly.  In orther words, his choice should not impead nor inflict 
damage on my choice, which would be to grow some tasty hot chiles. 
And if he does not do the honorable thing, if he say's "that's 
life...i can't control the pollination process", well, then he should 
be prepared to pay the price...which I leave up to one's imagination.


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Peace, Hendrix, and Chiles.......
Rael64