I wish to thank everyone for their notes and wish that I could respond to all individually. CaJohn I'll deal privately with ;-) As to firefighter donations, I think the money would be MUCH better given to the poor carpet sweepers, window washers, maintainance workers and clerks families. All firefigter families who lost members will receive Federal Death Benefits, State Public Safety Officer Death Benefits, Union Death Benefits, Pension Benefits and probably Departmental Life Insurance as well as whatever coverage they had themselves. At least one major corp has already donated a sizeable amount as have other individuals. They died doing what they loved and knew full well that that risk is part of such a noble job. I'm more concerned about those other folks who have no such benefits. A temp from the secretarial pool has other expectations of a day a work.... Open Fields is still scheduled and no changes are planned. In a good news/bad news sort of thing, recovery at the Pentagon is going to be so long and involved it will be days after the open fields before it looks like I'll be heading east. As I suspected from the photos, the impact point was directly into his office. I would ask that all who attend the open fields not let all this stuff take the smile from their face or the laughter from the gathering. I'm shuttling the first loads of chiles out of the fields all day today. I've got TONS of orange hab, which did really well this year. Cayennes & Japs look good too. The Red Savina(R) look really good also- I just wish they'd hurry up and ripen! The RS are about chest high already. I'll see if I can't get pics posted. Thanks again to all & see you in a few short weeks. -Jim C Mild to Wild Lieutenant, Engine 113 Local 416, Indianapolis