>Nope, I plant 10 to 15% extra seed. > >An observation, the plants that I help get the seed coat off, seem to >be weaker plants in the field. that's what i did this year, i planted about 150 seeds, got about 100 to strike, lost about 50 to damping off, planted the best 28 in pots, and threw the rest in what ground space i had. At this stage (a month on from potting out) the strongest seedlings are easily the strongest plants. byron, do you use a bleach solution? cheers, phil.