Oh, Rael! You do give "chile-head" a (w)hole new meaning!!! :D green, CH #2156 But aside from my primarily fictitious ramblings, capsiacin on the genitals *is* pleasurable to a certain extent/level, of course. I am a masochist, more or less, thus me and Mr. Pain deal with one another differently than most folks. I not only tolerate high levels of pain, I rather enjoy (some) high levels of pain. "True" masochist or not? Dunno. Don't particularly care. Do I rub the inner part of a halved red savina on my Johnson? Hell no. Have I passed on capsiacin to Mr. Penis via contact, intentionally or unintentionally? Yes on both counts. It's stimulating to say the least. Unfortunately, it does not lead this boy to faster and/or more explosive orgasms. But it's sorta neat-o to walk around in the midst of folks with this pleasurable burning Down Under. Not quite like having sex in a crowd and no one realizing it, but it's damned close... I'd also suggest the perineum as a site of application...just a thought :) -- Peace, Hendrix, and Chiles....... Rael64 Monk of the TCS Order of Enlightened Twister [TM!]