Thanks, George. I'll give it try and let everybody know what happens. I was in Dallas this week and almost stopped for lunch at a Korean restaurant which had a kim-chi notice outside. But I opted for Vietnamese, not Korean. Rob << Subject: [CH] Kimchi organisms Rob Solarion asked how the kimchi fermentation got going. I remembered Kris Blennow had looked up the organisms during the last time the thread went around and his recent post was a good exposition of how the bacteria that are present on all the cabbages begin to grow and metabolize the carbohydrate to lactic acid. I cannot add much more except from my own observations. >>