Jumping in a little bit here again. When observing chile growing in the Caribbean, Dave Anderson & I noticed that the chiles that did much better were the ones that had shade. All the seed beds were always shaded. At the research station in Bodles, they had netting up to keep insects out which also provided some shade. The differences in the plants were dramatic. One of my recommendations to them was to plant their chile crop underneath their other tree crops. There was a 7' tall bird pepper that Dave had his picture taken with- it also had quite a bit of shade fro the overhead natural canopy. I believe that in the 'natural' setting, these chiles would have shade as well. We're talking near tropics here folks and that means DENSE natural overhead canopy. Jamaica is a lush island. Birds don't also normally sit on the ground to poop. This means that any droppigns that contain seeds are already going to fall near shade. As to the wilting as a defense mechanism. What causes the wilting is a loss of water pressure within the plant (turgidity). With the collapse of the vascular tissue (got to throw some big words in here so it sounds like I know what I'm talking about ;-) the leaf drops. It's just like the difference between a closed garden hose and an open one- open and the hose is 'soft'. Closed, and the hose is rigid. Sounds like it works on brains as well ;-) -Jim C Mild to Wild