Well, just got off the phone with the clifty falls folks. It seems that indeed the shower/restroom facility does open on friday, and they're in good shape. The trails are also in fairly good shape, though understandably muddy. The best trail, the one that follows the creekbed, is passable, but hard to follow due to the creek being high, so they've had some people get lost. 'Course, you can't make reservations before memorial day. So, I'll be there in the class C campground somewhere. Like I said, I'm not sure how early I will be able to get there, but will probably pitch the tent before going to the hotluck. It'll take about 2:30 to get there, so if i can't leave before 4:00, I'll get to the park about 6:30, probably not to the hotluck until about 7:00, 7:15. Which probalby means I need to bring something cold or room-temperature... It'd be nifty if anyone else intends to camp to camp in the same area. On the other hand, maybe it'd be better to stay away from each other ;) -- Chad Gard, KB9WXQ INCHASE: http://www.inchase.org Co-founder SCOA: http://www.stormchasersofamerica.org Member #3 INSWA: http://www.insw.org Unit #21