I *was* umemployed from May 1, 2001, to May of this year... I'm now working two jobs, about 11-13 hours daily, roughly 60-65 hours a week. Work PM's at Arby's, during the day - 20 hours a week - at a non-profit using my career skills: marketing/events/sales, etc. Had to file bankruptcy to save the house... Did have a third job, but only having one day off a month was pushing things a bit too far. One does what one has to do to keep that little garden plot for growing chiles... green, CH #2156 -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Karen Stober Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:34 AM To: Joan McCutcheon Cc: George J. Goslowsky; ChileHeads Subject: Re: [CH] Down, but not out Me too - my last day is June 28. So use kstober@skyweb.net after June 27. So, I'm selling illustrations, I got some interest for my web design skills, I'm applying for my AFM membership (but there isn't any work for musicians at this time) and a local Y is hiring aerobics instructors ( I am AFAA certified). I must now charge an industry standard fee for my photography, and people are finding all sorts of reasons to be cheap. My sister has been unemployed since February. She works in HR and has been told to switch careers, there is no work for HR people. Too many with more experience are unemployed at this time. Both of us live at home with Dad, and he pays the bills. There is no free in freelancing. Do it for a fee. As my professors have told me, stand up for what you are worth. If they wont pay your fee, and, as a newcomer, you are on the low side, then they are just cheap. They will get what they pay for. I also learned a lot about usage and re-use rights and copyrights. Karen http://members.skyweb.net/~kstober/