Luke in Oz wanted to know about Piri-piri (or Peri-Peri as it's usually spelled here) peppers from South African list lurkers... I mean members! Although Peri-peri sauce which was inherited from our former Portuguese colonial neighbours Mozambique, is a widely available and very popular addition to various foods in SA such as Prawns, Chicken or Chicken Livers peri-peri, P-P flavoured chips etc. I don't think that there is a definitive chile used for this type of sauce here. I stand under correction from more knowledgeable list members of course! The types used vary as much as the recipes used. I have seen Cayennes, African Devils/bird peppers and other unidentified thin-walled varieties used to make the sauce. I have read on this list of the Peri-peri variety but have never been able to buy any seed here in SA. I have even been given seeds purportedly for this type which grew into plants that produced chiles that were remarkably similar to Thais or Cayennes. (1 - 2 inches long, pointed, thin walled, green ripening to a reddish orange and reasonably hot). So my answer to Luke is that the recipe book was probably wrong when referring to the fruit as berries - Tepin variants aren't common here. Here's a typical Peri-peri recipe: Peri-Peri Marinade 2 - 4 fresh red chiles, chopped (Note - no variety specified) 4 tablespoons lemon juice or lime juice 4 tablespoons oil (Sunflower or Olive) 1 tablespoon dried pepper flakes, cayenne or red pepper 1 tablespoon paprika 1 teaspoon salt (to taste) 1-2 teaspoons minced garlic Combine all ingredients. Grind and mix the ingredients into a smooth paste using a food processor or mortar and pestle. Rub marinade onto meat and allow to marinate in a glass bowl for at least thirty minutes before cooking. This is great on chicken, seafood or any other grilled meats. Slightly OT - Alex Silbajoris wrote "I wonder if they do a cover of Call Any Vegetable..." I'm happy to see that there are other list members who remember the genius of Frank Zappa. This took me back oh so many years... ;-) Cheers my first chile and tomato seedlings from seed planted a week ago)