It's not just your imagination! I've found that it is completely hit or miss around here. I had completely written off the habs at any grocery store in the area here (huntington beach, ca) until I found one store that had some with some kick. I popped a piece the size of a dime in my mouth while cooking a while back, and yowee! It actually had some kick to it. Prior to this, all the ones I had were almost edible whole. Anybody out there near the coast, either east or west? I'm planning on starting a small pepper garden this spring, and I was wondering if anybody had some tips. Namely- I have read that some of the hotter peppers need fairly high temperatures (85 F. or above) to really thrive. We only get a few of those days here a year, how will that affect the yield or the peppers themselves? Should I even try growing something like a red savina? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Solarion" <solarion@1starnet.com> To: <chile-heads@globalgarden.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: [CH] Heatless Habaneros > Seasons Greetings To All The ChileHeads! Here is an article from the > Dallas Morning News, published back on October 13. This is interesting in > that I personally have noticed that local grocery-store habaneros don't > seem to have nearly so much heat as a couple of years ago. Maybe it is > just my "imagination". Best Wishes For 2003! Roberto > > * > > LAS CRUCES, New Mexico (Associated Press) -- New Mexico State University > scientists say they've taken the heat out of habaneros with a new pepper > born to be mild. > > The NuMex Sauve Red and the NuMex Suave Orange habaneros are ready to be > released to the chile-loving public. Seed is available from NMSU's Chile > Pepper Institute. > > The researchers received the seeds from Houston chile aficionado Bill > Adams, who liked their mild flavor and sent them to the Chile Pepper > Institute. NMSU researchers conducted seeding trials last year. > > As a special promotion for the new chile varieties, institute director Paul > Bosland and colleagues at NMSU's Agricultural Experiment Station passed out > samples of the Suave varieties to university administrators and students > around campus. > > "They trust us," Mr. Bosland said with a grin. > > The hottest variety of habaneros -- Red Savina -- is about 23 times hotter > than the normal tongue-burning jalapeņo. > > "Habaneros have unique flavors as chile peppers, but most people just > couldn't taste them because they're so hot," Mr. Bosland said. > > Eric Votava, a senior research specialist and chile breeder at NMSU who did > much of the field work for the mild habaneros, said the new varieties have > a citrusy flavor with an orange-lemony overtone. > > "You'll feel a sensation of heat more in the back of your mouth and throat, > as opposed to a jalapeņo, where you'll feel the heat on the tip of your > tongue and lips," he said. "People can now taste these exotic flavors > without being afraid of setting their mouth on fire." > > In the short term, the largest market for the pepper will be home > gardeners, Mr. Bosland said. Bigger markets will come later. > > "For 400 years we had green chile, and it's only been in the last 20 years > that the mainstream commercial companies have looked to be part of that," > he said. > > The new habaneros look like a cross between traditional compact habaneros > and a Scotch bonnet, another of the world's hottest chiles, which often is > used in jerk sauces and Caribbean salsas. > > In the field, the plants are taller than their hotter cousins and yield > about the same number of peppers, NMSU said. > > The name "suave" is Spanish for mellow or smooth. > > "We wanted to emphasize the nature of these chile peppers," Mr. Bosland said. > > DEGREES OF HEAT > > Chile peppers are rated in Scoville heat units: > > 577,000 Rating of the habanero Red Savina > > 25,000 Rating of a normal jalapeņo > > 835 Suave Orange > > 580 Suave Red > > [COMMENT: 580? That probably isn't much "hotter" than a bell pepper! RS] > . > > >