OK, since I started the war, I'll be the one to wave the white flag. In my defense, yesterday I was suffering with a very sore back, and made the mistake of soothing it with some pain pills and a couple shots of tequila. To compound matters, I saw George Bush on TV, which always pisses me off (how can the guy who lost the election be sitting in the oval office?? how?! HOW?!!). Reading the long list of replies to my proclamation that macs suck (which I stand by, even in my brief moment of clarity) has been entertaining. I've learned that some of you are very sweet, some quite clever, and some pure a**holes; I won't mention any names (but I'll deal with the a**holes off list). So, I'M SORRY for disdaining your pretty little macs in this public forum. I offer the biggest apology to Starwind- not only because we're both Wiccans, but because she wrote the most articulate replies to my post. I will also reiterate that Indiana is a great state, and my comments about it were meant in jest- but really, you guys need to do something about Gary- it ruins my drive to Chicago. It was never my intention to offend anyone- merely to challenge your opinion, which, apparently, some of you can't handle. But to those of you who rose to the occasion and severely bludgeoned me with intelligent argument (Rael)- my hat is off to you. Maybe one day we'll meet and share a cup of habanero mint tea. No really, it's good... PS- just out of curiosity- although I would never use anything other than a Windows operating system, I do not use Internet Explorer, because it sucks. I'll bet all of you mac users prefer IE though- right? Rob K http://www.thelash.com Celtic Mayhem From America