On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Byron wrote: > Earlier this spring Dave Dewitt published a heat comparison Chocolate > habs > were hotter than Red Savina. > > I've been saying that for 3 years. > Not from tables or measuring devices > I have a couple friends that saute Red Savina's in their breakfast > eggs, use > tobasco sauce for a gargle, The chocolate habs were to hot for them. I dunno. I've gotten some choc. habs from a couple kind hearted sources and while indeed hot momma chiles, they don't seem to be on par w/the savinas. Granted, as others have said, with which I agree, there is the unavoidable thing known as Subjectivity which includes Inconsistacy..ecy? shit..whatever...and it is EverPresent. Tastes vary, even in the very same individual. Brush your teeth and eat a hab; then eat one 14 hours later (assuming you don't brush again) and see if there's a difference. Smoking. Boose. Health. Air you're breathing. A close friend. Other flavors, etc. ALL contribute to what XXX tastes like at time XXX. Suffice it to say that nothing ever tastes exactly the same as it once did. Some Food Metaphysics for ya. This applies to "heat" too. And then there' s growing/planting/etc. variables. Being a non-farmboy redneck (it happens), I don't know farm-speak, but I do know, as most everyone has already said, that chile "heat" varies for various reasons (V-word day), even from the same seed. I've had blistering hot serranos, and habs that didn't even say hello to me on the way down (much less out). Grew some pimentos one year and damned if the things weren't decently hot (damned beautiful color when ground too)! Pleasant surprise indeed. But ain't it a good thing that nothing is *always* the same? I'd hate to know that All red savinas were X-hot (always); All Thai chiles were Y-hot (always). All Wimmenz were Z-hot (always). Just no damned fun. We'd get bored. We'd get lazier and more apathetic as a society than we already are (can't go that way much further, admittedly). Life would be The Same Day In Day Out. BLAH! Jump up and dance, brothers and sisters! Life nor Heat of Chile is NOT easy, guaranteed, nor any kind of farkin' Right To Be! Be happy! Get Laid! Take out a loan and tell the bank to piss off when then want their money back because We Know What Capitalism Really IS! Wear women's clothing (sorry ladies, not much fun for you wearing men's...but go for it if you like!), fly to Thailand, and eat rice for breakfast. Then vote Green. Bask in Difference! In Uniqueness! In Purple thongs! (every man should experience that once...*then* tell yer sweetie to put one on...). Jala-loooya, baby! I ain't like YOU! (and if we're speaking "averages", well, jeez, how boring....) Peace, Hendrix, and Chiles....... Rael"...bastard at the coffee shop gave me a *caffinated* (2x shot) latte...we're ALL JUNKIES..."64 "Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do." - Bertrand Russell --