Well, Sir & Ma'am. As I have been on this list for many years, and have been in the sales business for many MORE years, I have to applaud your effort at growing your business. However, you really did choose the wrong venue to do it. When you joined the CH list, I really hope that you read the various admonitions that our esteemed list owner has posted. It would seem, however, that you did not, and decided that this would be a great forum to advance your obvious wish to knock down one very well established HOT chile pepper, and supplant it with your own claim of having the absolute, never to be disputed, hottest chile pepper, which of course, you will supply to all and sundry, who wish to grow it. I do not have a problem with sales technique, per se. What I do have a problem with is the method you chose to use. Fine, go ahead and try to knock down Mr. Garcia's Red Savina Habenero, and the many growers who grow these and other chiles, and supply them to whomever wishes to purchase them...as well as one guy, who GIVES them away! Well, Mr. & Mrs. Dremann, I really do hope that your seed business flourishes, and that you both retire as millionaires, sometime in the future. However, I really think that your efforts to use this list as a sales floor, is the wrong way to go about it. I have a great respect for the folk on this list, and count most of them as close friends, and even a couple as adversarial buddies :-) but it is very obvious that you have hit a raw nerve the past few days. Hopefully you will cease and desist. Cheers, from Old Doug in BC Canada